Information for Leaders
Frequently Asked Questions
Preparing for your Pinewood Derby
To prepare for your derby, decide on a date, place, and time, and make a reservation with us. Decide who will participate. Some groups also invite the 8 to 11-yr old girls to race with the Cub Scouts. We can usually accommodate most requests like these at no additional charge. Pinewood derbies are also fun events for older youth and adults.
Provide a pinewood derby car kit for each participant, or ensure participants know where to get one. Siblings are welcome to also build a car and race it during practice time, but we recommend allowing only official participants to race in the main event. Instruct participants to make sure to design their cars to the correct specifications. It is very important to leave enough clearance underneath the car. You can find the required clearances and other tips on how to build a pinewood derby car on the Information for Participants page.
Recommended minimum clearances for pinewood derby cars.
Packs differ as to the chosen rule set and level of enforcement. The most important specifications are for the cars to not be overweight, and to maintain adequate clearance under the car. Regardless of which rule set you enforce (or none at all), we do not allow liquid lubricants since these can damage the track surface. We also do not allow anything which may put the track or bystanders at risk. We will not strictly enforce other rules or specifications for the cars unless you instruct us to.
If you have more than about 20 cars, we strongly recommend weighing the cars in the night before your event. At the very least, ask participants to try to arrive early for weigh in. You are more likely to start your event on time if you do not have to wait for participants to adjust the weights on their cars. It's also a good idea to have a gathering activity for participants to do once their cars have been weighed.
Decorations, awards, and refreshments are as important as the race itself. The pinewood derby is much more than just another pack meeting. Make this event special.
- Reservation made and confirmed
- Schedule building/facility
- Invite participants
- Provide pinewood derby car kits
- Provide instruction or help building the cars (see tips)
- Plan for any decorations, awards, and refreshments
What to Expect on Race Day
About 45 minutes before the event begins, we will set up our track and timing system at your facility. We may ask you for help carrying in the track, which is heavy. You will need to provide tables and chairs. The images below are two recommended room layouts. The track requires an open area of at least 15' x 40'. Traffic cones (provided by us) are used to form a safety perimeter around the track.
You should have a table designated for participants to place their cars before and during the race. You may want to set each car on a paper plate so it doesn't roll off. You may also want another table for making adjustments or adding graphite. You will want to cover these tables with a disposable table cloth so that graphite from the cars does not stain the table. You may also want to have additional tables for refreshments and awards. We will also need a table for our equipment. If you want to use the LEGO car kits (provided free of charge) as part of your event, you will need additional tables. If your facility has a projector screen, we would appreciate using that as well.
We also recommend using a microphone before, during, and after the race. The emcee typically stands at the head of the track near the projector screen. We will often invite the participants to share something about their cars during the race.
- Building opened 45 minutes prior to event
- Long table for weighing, adjustments, repairs, and graphite, with disposable table cloth
- Long table to safely store cars when not racing
- Table(s) for building LEGO cars (if desired)
- Two small tables, or one long table, for track equipment
- Scale (we can provide one if you do not have one)
- Extra weights, graphite, and tools
- Projector screen and microphone, if available
- Refreshments, decorations, and awards, if desired
The Main Event
As participants arrive, they should make adjustments to weight and verify their car will roll freely on the track. An adult volunteer should verify that all cars are 5 ounces or less. If you have more than about 20 cars, it is a good idea to hold a separate weigh-in before the event. You do not need to provide us with a list of names or assign numbers to the cars.
If you are doing an open format LEGO derby, participants can begin building, racing, and modifying their cars as soon as they arrive. If you wish, you may then transition into a more traditional event once the designs are solidified.
All cars must be checked in before the race. This can be done by visiting this link from any mobile device, or it can be done from our laptop. We might ask for an adult volunteer who is comfortable using a phone to assist checking in the cars. We will display all of the checked in cars on the screen before the race to make sure no one has been forgotten. Additional cars can be checked in even after the race has started.
Once the participants have arrived and their cars have been weighed, you can hold your opening ceremony. You can award your regular Cub Scout awards at this time, but avoid taking too much time doing so.
After all cars have been checked in, we will give a few instructions to the participants before beginning the race. Lane assignments are generated automatically. During the event, the four cars that are up to race will be shown on the projector screen. The next four cars ("on deck") are also shown. As each race concludes, the participants should retrieve their cars and take them back to the designated table.
In our standard race format, each car races at least once on each of the four lanes, and sometimes more if time allows. For 20 participants, this takes about 20 minutes. If you are preparing customized certificates for the cars, please do so during the race so that participants and their families do not have to wait. You can find pictures of all the cars and who they belong to on our results page once the race begins.
After all the races are complete, the results will be available here. The cars are ranked based on their fastest time. You can view overall rankings as well as rankings grouped by den or age-group.
You should conclude your event with an awards ceremony. In addition to first, second, and third prize, you may also want to have special awards for each participant. We do not provide awards or trophies, but we will play awesome music while you present the awards. After the ceremony, we will leave our track set up for the remaining time to allow for some races just for fun. This is a great time to invite siblings and others to race extra cars or LEGO cars.
Main Event Checklist
- As participants arrive: weigh cars, make final adjustments, test run on track, check in online
- LEGO car building gathering activity
- Opening ceremony
- Cub Scout awards, if any
- Verify all cars have been checked in
- Race begins
- During the race, assign customized awards, if desired (Pictures of each car will be available here)
- Access the final results here
- Awards ceremony
Frequently Asked Questions
Do you have any tips for building a fast pinewood derby car?
Can siblings build cars and race them?
Yes! After the closing ceremony we will leave the track up for a few minutes to allow races just for fun.
How long do you need to set up? Take down?
We usually arrive 45 minutes before the opening ceremony to allow time to set up our track. Take-down typically takes about 30 minutes.
How long does a typical pinewood derby last?
An entire pinewood derby program, from opening to closing cermony, typically lasts just under an hour (add one or two minutes for each car over 20).
I'm used to derbies lasting two or more hours.
We have designed our derbies to be fast-paced, fun, and exciting. If you have time remaining after the main event, you can fill it with LEGO car building and racing.
Who emcees during the event?
We will emcee the race itself, but you will emcee during the opening ceremony, awards ceremony, and closing ceremony.
Do you play music during the race?
Yes. We include a lot of Disney, with some other kid-appropriate pop thrown in. We also include a few classics that parents will enjoy. We even have special music for the awards ceremony. Let us know if you have any specific requests.
Are there any rules we need to know regarding the track?
We ask that you not allow the boys to run near the track. There are ropes, cords, and other objects that could present tripping hazards. During setup and take-down, the rope barrier that normally surrounds the track might not be up. Please refrain from stepping over the track in this case. We also ask that you put away basketballs and any other things that could damage the fragile components of the track.
What rules are there for LEGO derbies?
All LEGOs must be returned at the end of the event and may not be taken outside of the room.
Do you need any help setting up the track or taking it down?
We do appreciate help taking equipment, some of which is very heavy, to and from the car.
Do we need to provide a list of names or give numbers to each car?
No. When each participant checks in, we take down his name and photograph his car. The names and pictures of the cars are shown on the projector screen during the race, so that the participants know when it is their turn to race.
How does online check-in work?
Beginning three days before your event, parents or leaders can visit this link
to check in a car. They will enter the participant's name, den, name of the car, and attach a photo of the car. All entries must be approved by us before they will appear in the race.
Do we have to use the online check-in?
No. Cars can also be checked into the race directly from our laptop.
Is Wi-Fi/internet access required?
No, but it is appreciated. Without internet, online features such as mobile check-in and live results will be unavailable.
How many times does each participant get to race down the track?
Each car will race four times during the official race. We sometimes give each participant one or two bonus races if time allows. After your awards ceremony and closing ceremony, we will leave the track up for a few minutes to allow races just for fun.
How are the winners decided?
Cars are ranked according to their fastest absolute time. For fairness, each car will race at least once on each lane.
Can you group results by den or age?
Yes. About 10% of packs choose to group awards by den. This is most common in large packs or when two groups, such as Cub Scouts and Activity Days Girls, are participating. If you would like to do this, please let us know before checking in the cars.
Do you provide awards?
No. You are responsible for providing the awards and certificates, and for presenting them after the race. As you present the awards, we will play heroic music and show pictures of the cars on the big screen.
How do I assign special awards?
Most pack leaders bring a stack of blank certificates which they fill out during the race. You can either decide on your award categories ahead of time or make them up on the spot. If you are not sure which car belongs to which participant, we will have a list of cars and first names on our website which you can access on a mobile device.
How is the race order determined?
In the first heat, cars race in the order they were checked-in. In subsequent heats, our software groups similarly performing cars together, resulting in closer finishes and better chances that any given car will win at least one race. Almost always, the final race is between the top four fastest cars, meaning that the derby remains undecided until the last race.
How and when do we see the results?
Results are displayed immediately. On the projector screen we show the results of the previous race, and the current best times of the 12 fastest cars. You can also see live results here
If results are shown immediately, doesn't that take some of the suspense and surprise out of the awards ceremony?
Yes, and that's just the way it is. Think of the derby as an Olympic event. In the Olympics, the results are usually known as soon as a race is concluded. This is why commentators build suspense before the event, saying how fast so-and-so needs to go to win a medal, and so forth. In our derbies, the four fastest cars usually race together in the final race. We will build up the suspense and tension just before the final race, and when the cars cross the finish line, everyone will know who the winner is. During the awards ceremony, you can still surprise the participants with special awards.
Are your events limited to just Cub Scouts?
No. We can also run events for activity days girls, youth or adult groups, family reunions, corporate events, etc.
My son/daughter wants to participate in a pinewood derby but my pack/troop/group/etc. isn't doing one. What can I do?
We keep a list of upcoming events on our reservation page.
If you find an event near you, we can put you in contact with the event leader, who may allow your son or daughter to join their group for their derby.
Do you allow "anything goes" races, without rules?
We do, but not at the expense of the safety of the participants and the track. Also, we do not recommend relaxing any of the rules for Cub Scouts. Please contact us with specific questions.
Can I rent the track and run the event myself?
What forms of payment do you accept?
We accept cash, check, and PayPal (online credit card). If paying by check, please make out to Utah Valley Pinewood Derby, LLC.
When is payment due? Do you require a deposit?
Payment is due on the day of the event. No deposit is required. We will send an invoice via email about two weeks before your event.
What if I need to cancel a reservation?
Try to give us at least 24 hours notice before cancelling.
Do you run events outside Utah County?
Yes, but a travel charge may apply.
Is there an extra charge for events held during weekday business hours?
Yes. Weekday events during the day require me to leave work for several hours; this is the reason for the extra charge.
What timing system and software do you use?
The track, timing system, and software are 100% homemade. The track is constructed from hand-selected plywood. The timing system is powered by an Arduino and uses a contact switch to detect the release of the starting gate. The finish line uses four infrared breakbeam sensors to record when the cars cross the finish line. The software to manage the race and collect results was written in Node.js and Angular.
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